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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-06/netflix-revolution-shakes-up-australian-media/6678138

 

 

Just a few months after its arrival in Australia, it is clear that media streaming company Netflix is already causing quite a stir.

 

Local viewers are embracing the service more quickly than almost anyone expected, including Netflix itself.

 

There was evidence of that with Netflix's recent second quarter results; its stocks surged on a global subscriber base just short of 70 million users.

 

"We've got some momentum that's based on brand growth in a number of markets and we had a strong launch in Australia as well," Netflix chief financial officer David Wells said.

 

"All of those things contributed to the success we saw in sort of upside versus what we thought we were going to see in Q2."

 

Netflix has not provided specific sign-up numbers for Australia, but research company Roy Morgan has been monitoring its fortunes here almost from the start.

 

"The growth of Netflix has been absolutely stellar," said Roy Morgan's chief executive Michele Levine.

"Roy Morgan started measuring it a few months ago and in April our first numbers were showing 755,000 Australians had access to Netflix.

 

"The next month it was over 1 million and in June it was 1.42 million."

 

Telstra's response 'hindered by Foxtel stake'

The threat to free-to-air television is fairly self evident, but analysts said internet providers and pay television company Foxtel could also be in danger.

 

There was further confirmation of that recently with a belated reaction from Australia's dominant internet provider, Telstra.

 

The company has announced a September release for a new product called Telstra TV, which promises an easy way to stream content by bundling Netflix with its smaller local rivals Presto and Stan.

 

Despite repeated requests, ABC News was unable to secure an interview with the company to ask what impact Telstra TV will have on the company's 50 per cent stake in Foxtel.

 

Telecommunications analyst Paul Budde, managing director of BuddeComm, said he was surprised by how rapidly Netflix had grown, but does not underestimate how significantly it will impact on the sector.

 

"If your company like Telstra is linked to Foxtel, then you have to make a decision," Mr Budde said.

"Do you want to be there for the short term; over the short term Foxtel can still be successful. But in the longer term you will have to start looking at partnerships with international companies."

 

Foxtel, jointly owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation, has sought to combat Netflix by slashing the price of its entry-level pay TV service and through its stake in rival service Presto.

"Even if they have changed the game, Foxtel still have that perception in peoples' mind that they have been ripped off and also Foxtel left it rather late to change its game, only a few months before Netflix arrived," Mr Budde said.

 

Telstra is also trailing on two other fronts.

 

Roy Morgan's research shows that just over 5 per cent of Telstra broadband customers have signed up to Netflix.

 

That compares to penetration of nearly 17 per cent and 12 per cent for iiNet and Optus, the two companies which signed unmetered access deals with Netflix ahead of its launch.

Telstra also ranks last among Australian internet providers on Netflix's own rating of streaming performance.

 

"It's no longer that people buy you for telephone services or broadband access. They buy you for content and if you don't perform in that particular area then absolutely you will miss out," Mr Budde said.

 

On that basis, the success of Telstra TV is likely to be crucial for the company's internet provider business, and possibly also the long-term sustainability of Foxtel.

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Presto is fucking shit fyi. No 1080 support for some reason. I got a 6month free subscription when I got my new plan and the pricks billed me anyway. When I brought it to their attention, they refunded the money of course but told me they couldn't fix the problem. Suspended the account until they can. I hear good things about netflix though.

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Netflix is good. $9 a month.

After a month though, I seem to be doing more and more surfing before finding a show to settle on.

Lot of quality stuff like House of Cards, Orange is the New Black, and a lot of old stuff. Big variety.

Keep wondering when new stuff will come though, but when tv shits me off I tune in to find something ad free. 

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Gave up Foxtel and the $60 per month I was paying (pre price drop) and now have both Netflix and Stan for $19 per month. Infinitely better than Foxtel. Foxtel can well and truly get fucked.

 

Doesn't help me with watching NRL. Fox have long held League fans to ransom.

 

Tried Foxtel Play.

Tried NRL Live App.

Both dogshit streaming services.

 

Have resorted to watching FTA games + Storm games at the local bar.

 

Netflix is amazing. Stan is very good. For $10 a pop, it's fantastic value.

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I have had Netflix for a few months now and I absolutely love it.

I use a VPN so that I get the US version which is infinitely better than the Aussie.

 

Sometimes it can take you a while to find something to watch. That's always the case when you have such a massive library to choose from.

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Gave up Foxtel and the $60 per month I was paying (pre price drop) and now have both Netflix and Stan for $19 per month. Infinitely better than Foxtel. Foxtel can well and truly get fucked.

 

Doesn't help me with watching NRL. Fox have long held League fans to ransom.

 

Tried Foxtel Play.

Tried NRL Live App.

Both dogshit streaming services.

 

Have resorted to watching FTA games + Storm games at the local bar.

 

Netflix is amazing. Stan is very good. For $10 a pop, it's fantastic value.

 

Once I can find a good way to watch NRL streaming on my computer (and therefore my TV) I will be switching off Foxtel. I only use it for NRL these days, and even then I'm skipping most of the games anyway. I stream all the NFL games on my computer already - if the NRL can get a service like what they have I will be onto it in a second.

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 if the NRL can get a service like what they have I will be onto it in a second.

 

That's my next thought. If the next NRL TV deal includes Netflix (or someone) streaming games, even 24-48 hours later, I can't see the need for Foxtel. Especially once you sign up to Netflix for the NRL.

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I use the NRL app, yeah the streaming is shit, but it's watchable, I can mirror my phone to my smart TV, which is ok, but a long way from the quality you'd expect.

 

Hopefully, with Telstra and Fox getting hammered in the market, they'll lift their game on the stream and quality next year.

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I use the NRL app, yeah the streaming is shit, but it's watchable

Every Monday night when my weekly subscription ticked over, it would kick me off the app and refused to allow me to log back in for about 20 minutes.

 

As the Storm are forced to play about 20 Monday night games a year, it was regularly when my own team were playing. Needless to say, my neighbours no doubt heard my frustration. Three times I stormed out to watch the game at a bar down the street.

 

Besides that dogshit issue, there were regular issues with freezing/quality dropping (below the standard piss poor quality).

 

There is also the fact that you can only watch the games using a mobile device / somtimes a laptop and not via smart TV/PS4/Xbox.

 

Overall, it is exactly the kind of embarrassing, fucking pathetic service I expect from the NRL.

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Every Monday night when my weekly subscription ticked over, it would kick me off the app and refused to allow me to log back in for about 20 minutes.

 

As the Storm are forced to play about 20 Monday night games a year, it was regularly when my own team were playing. Needless to say, my neighbours no doubt heard my frustration. Three times I stormed out to watch the game at a bar down the street.

 

Besides that dogshit issue, there were regular issues with freezing/quality dropping (below the standard piss poor quality).

 

There is also the fact that you can only watch the games using a mobile device / somtimes a laptop and not via smart TV/PS4/Xbox.

 

Overall, it is exactly the kind of embarrassing, fucking pathetic service I expect from the NRL.

 

Yeah but if you squint, even the Eels look like a quality team.

 

I didn't think the Storm were 'forced' to play many Monday night games at all. How many have they had this year I wonder?

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6, actually. The Storm played 6 Monday games last year. Blame the Qlders - the Cows have to play Saturday nights and the Broncos are only allowed to play Friday nights. (and 8 this year.)

 

Wow, well there you go. 

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Every Monday night when my weekly subscription ticked over, it would kick me off the app and refused to allow me to log back in for about 20 minutes.

 

As the Storm are forced to play about 20 Monday night games a year, it was regularly when my own team were playing. Needless to say, my neighbours no doubt heard my frustration. Three times I stormed out to watch the game at a bar down the street.

 

Besides that dogshit issue, there were regular issues with freezing/quality dropping (below the standard piss poor quality).

 

There is also the fact that you can only watch the games using a mobile device / somtimes a laptop and not via smart TV/PS4/Xbox.

 

Overall, it is exactly the kind of embarrassing, fucking pathetic service I expect from the NRL.

 

 

I have the annual subscription, so don't get the issue you describe above

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Yeah but if you squint, even the Eels look like a quality team.

 

I didn't think the Storm were 'forced' to play many Monday night games at all. How many have they had this year I wonder?

 

You would have to do more than squint.

More like completely close your eyes and dream of the 80's.

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I have Foxtel. Not only do I view every game once.......

 

but I record them, and watch them again during the week.

 

= winning.

 

Stop with the references to screwing your sister

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